Bobbin’ Along – bobbin tension

You may have noticed in the previous post about tension that we didn’t even test sew the machine.

Yet.  We will test sew it, but not just yet.  You see what I’m trying to do is get the machine to a point where it’s in the ballpark first, then the rest is just small tweaks.  The goal is to help you rule out the big problems, the ones that require repair, or in drastic situations, possibly a trip to the sewing machine spa.

Consider this statement:

Tension too tight on the top can also be tension too loose on the bottom.
Top Tension too tight does not automatically mean bottom tension is too loose.
Tension too loose on the top can also be tension too tight on the bottom.
Top Tension too loose does not automatically mean bottom tension is too tight.

Very often we’re taught to only adjust the top tension and “DON’T TOUCH THAT!” for the bobbin tension.

Tension is about balance.  This is why it’s referred to as balancing tensions.  If there are two people on a see saw, if one is heavier, and the other is lighter, the lighter one is going to be in the air no matter what.  We need to balance the see saw so both can enjoy the ride.

When tensions are balanced, the stitch lays flat and looks nice.  It locks inside the fabric, and there is no – or minimal – top thread showing on the bottom, and no bottom thread on the top.

Note: with zig zag and decorative stitches, it’s fine for the top thread to show on the bottom.  This is normal.  What’s not normal is tunneling.  This is a puckering of the fabric in a “tube” that runs the length of the stitches.  This is a sign that though the tension may be “right” (i.e. top thread shows on the bottom some, or not at all, and the bottom thread doesn’t show on the top), it’s not balanced.  In most cases, it’s too tight in both the needle and bobbin tensions.

UGH.  You mean… the bobbin case needs to be adjusted? Yep.  It’s not as scary as it sounds, and no one’s going to yell at you.  I may applaud you though. 🙂

First, I want you to look to make sure that the bobbin case is not damaged.  Make sure there are no edges that look flattened (most common on a bobbin case you’d remove to change a bobbin – I’ll refer to these as class 15 style bobbin cases,  but it also refers to the featherweight / 301 bobbin case, the L type cases, the Pfaff cases, and many others you’ll encounter that are removed to load a bobbin into them) and that the bobbin case tension spring doesn’t look broken.   Additionally, make sure that there are no screws missing – there are usually up to 3 on a bobbin case:

  1. The one that holds the “lever” that snaps the bobbin case into the machine.  This is usually on the underside of the bobbin case (covered by the bobbin).  Also, if your bobbin case latch doesn’t snap back and forth correctly, it may be missing the spring that causes it to snap back and forth.  This is usually on the class 15 style cases.

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    Here’s the hidden one that most of us miss.
  2. a screw to the far side of the tension spring.  This is simply to hold the spring to the bobbin case.  It will be tight.
  3. A screw to the middle of the bobbin case tension spring.  This one will be loose

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There are a number of reasons to adjust bobbin tension:

  1. You’re using a significantly thicker or finer thread than the machine is set up to use.  Most often a sewing machine is set up to use 50wt mercerized cotton thread.
    • If you’re using a 25wt denim thread in your bobbin, there’s a good chance than the bobbin tension is going to be too tight, because the space allowed for a 50wt thread to slip through is too small for a 25wt thread.  The same would happen for a particularly coarse thread.  Clearly adjusting the top tension tighter isn’t going to help the thread in the bobbin pass through the tension spring any better.  This scenario would most likely result in tunneling.
    • Similarly, if you’re using a 70wt thread, you may find that it slips out of the bobbin case without any resistance at all.  The same can happen with very slippery threads. Providing proper resistance on the bobbin thread will result in a much better stitch than simply lowering the upper thread tension to match.  Adjusting the top tension would result in very loose stitches all around.
  2. The person who had the machine before you used a “non-standard” thread and adjusted the case for it.  You need to adjust it back to what you’re using.
  3. Maybe you’re using a 50wt thread, but it’s just too tight, or too loose in the case. This becomes a maintenance issue at this point and it’s one that you can do.  This can occur because thread weights aren’t really standardized.  50wt thread can be 2 strand or 3 strand.  It can be tri-lobed. It can have any number of features that will make it thicker or finer than whatever “standard 50wt mercerized thread” was used to calibrate the machine.

First, let’s cover how to tell if your bobbin thread tension is correct.

There are a few ways to do this without special measuring tools.

  • I alluded to one of ways in the previous article – the way I usually do this is with a 1oz weight. This method works best for the class 66 style bobbin cases (also known as a “drop in bobbin” case – the case must be removed from the machine for this test) but also for any of the class 15 type cases.
    • get a 1 oz weight, and tie it to the tail of a threaded bobbin
    • insert the bobbin into the bobbin case and thread it as though you’re going to sew (don’t put it in the machine at this point.  No needle in the world is going to draw that thread end up through the throat plate!)
    • hold the bobbin case so that the weight can try to draw the thread out of the case.  It should -just- hold it.
  • Another way I do this is using the “drop test”.  This works well for the 15 style bobbin cases.
    • With a bobbin properly threaded in the case, hold the thread end, and gently let go of the bobbin case.  It should drop about 3 -4″ then stop.  This is proper tension.
    • If it just keeps going, the tension is too loose.
    • If it doesn’t come out at all, it’s too tight.
  • The last way I do this is for class 15 style bobbin cases is to put the case in my hand, properly threaded, and pull up.  The case should stand up in your hand and almost leave it, but not quite.  The thread will start to come out first.
  • Finally, Dave McCallum uses a tool he built himself. Unfortunately this information was not archived on the Internet before he closed up shop.
  • There are commercial tension gauges out there for purchase.

Ok, so now you understand how to tell if the tension on your bobbin case needs to be adjusted, so how do you adjust it?

It’s really simple.

On every bobbin case, there’s at least one screw on the tension spring.  The tension spring is the flat piece of metal that you slip the thread under to thread it properly.  You’ll notice that this screw isn’t tight.  This is the way it’s supposed to be.

The tighter this screw is, the tighter the tension on the thread.

If you turn the screw a tiny bit (about a 1/16 of a turn) at a time, it will start to adjust the tension on the thread. Remember “Lefty Loosey Righty Tighty.”  Turn the screw left to loosen it. Turn it right to tighten it.

If you reach full right and the tension is still not right, one of two things have happened:

  1. There’s lint under spring.  This holds it up, and makes the tension looser than it should be.  Take a pin, or a needle, and run it under the spring to push the lint out.  Run the pin from closest to the screw to the end of the spring.  This should be the same direction that the thread travels.
  2. The spring is damaged.  In most cases, this spring can be replaced without replacing the whole bobbin case.

Do be careful when adjusting the bobbin tension, the springs tend to be more brittle than in the past, and I have had 2 of them break in the last few months.  Additionally, if you loosen the screw too much – it may fall out and those little critters are a pain to find when they hop off the desk.  Typically those too can be replaced, but then you have to wait until the new one arrives before you can sew.  It’s just better not to lose them in the first place.

Pics to follow.  I just didn’t have the energy to shoot them tonight.

Does this clear up how bobbin tension works and how and when it should be adjusted? Let me know in the comments below.

18 thoughts on “Bobbin’ Along – bobbin tension”

  1. Hi Fellas,
    My Singer 66-6 does not stitch, perhaps one stitch followed by 25 missing stitches, then another. It was in storage for years and almost frozen when i got it last week. Penetrating oil loosened it, but I have not been able to get it to stitch. I verified the timing to be right, with needle and hook meeting as the needle comes up from its lowest position. Here is a description of what happens:
    The presser foot goes all the way down and the upper thread tension tightens when the foot is in sewing position. I just took out the toothed conveyor and the bobbin case to be able to observe the movements of the hook and the (threaded for this purpose) needle. It all seems normal, needle goes down, meets the hook at the right time, hook catches the upper thread, upper thread goes around the bobbin to form the loop , then the cycle repeats. The oddity is that when I insert the bobbin, the thread has a rough time to travel around the bobbin case, catching against the bobbin case.
    When there is thread on the bobbin, it catches and knots, making the machine to want to stop. This is the point where the upper thread frays and breaks, as the needle goes up and down on the same length of thread. I tried advancing the hook timing a bit, to see if the thread goes around easier, no dice. Right now the timing is right on the money, with the meeting of hook and needle at the bottom timing mark of the needle shaft. I wander if the “QQ” screw has been loosened and the bobbin case clearance is not right, but as the manual says that under no circumstances that screw is to be loosened, I have not touch the “QQ” screw.

    1. No fellas here.
      It’s almost never the timing. Verify for sure that the needle isn’t in backwards – it’s the #1 reason for a machine to skip stitches.
      The manual can say all it wants about not touching that screw but there’s a good chance someone already messed with that screw before you got it.
      If that’s the case, then the note in the manual can’t stand.
      I think you will find this post useful: https://archaicarcane.com/lessons-learned-while-servicing-the-twins/

    2. Hey Frederick!

      I am having the same problem I think! My upper thread is catching under the lip of the bobbin case when it begins its journey around to loop! Did you figure out the fix? I have never had this problem on my machine before and having been sewing with no problems with the same thread on this project when it has started happening regularly!

  2. This article was so very helpful. I was at my wits end with the bobbin thread showing on the top and so loose! I’m sewing on a 403 and I tightened the bobbin case and it just wasn’t helping. You enlightened me that maybe the top tension was too tight even though my stitches looked good. l loosened it up a bit and all of a sudden stitches look great! No bobbin thread on the top! Thanks so much for all the articles you write and the videos too!

  3. Is it possible to bend the spring a little bit to increase tension if you have already adjusted the adjusting screw all the way down? I received a Betsy Ross treadle machine for Christmas. It seems to be identical to the Damascus Grand Rotary. No matter how loose the top tension or how tight I adjust the bottom, the top thread pulls the bobbin thread to the surface. I was thinking the spring just might have loosened up over the past century, but I don’t want to start bending things willy nilly. It’s still a serviceable stitch. What’s the best solution?

    1. Have you done the maintenance to the bobbin case and upper tension already and it’s still too loose?
      Then yes absolutely – to a degree you can reshape the spring very carefully. The problem comes when the metal fatigues. You’ll often hear that you can bend metal once and the next time it breaks. That’s the risk here. In the article on the twins (https://archaicarcane.com/lessons-learned-while-servicing-the-twins/), you’ll see I did exactly that as proof of concept and it worked. I did replace the spring in the end though because it’s usually the prudent thing to do if it’s available.

      By far the most common reason for no tension on the bottom is a lint ball though, so eliminate that variable first if you haven’t already.

  4. This is a very helpful website. Thank you for making it available for all to see. My Singer 401A is frozen. I have cleaned and oiled as required but the needle shaft will still not budge. I am thinking there may be something under the plate that holds the bobbin and case. Any suggestions on what to do next? Thank you.

    1. There’s definitely a lot to oil and grease under the bed of the machine – including oiling under the slide plate. If with the bobbin case out, the machine doesn’t turn – you have more oiling to do. It didn’t freeze in a day, it often won’t thaw in a day. Patience and persistence will go far here.

    1. Hi Patricia! Without having the machine in front of me, it would be hard to detail what everything does. I’d suggest Googling for a free manual or even some bloggers who have the machine. It’s possible they will have shown some of its abilities in their posts. Good Luck!

      1. Marie! Thank you so much for that information! Not having that model in front of me makes it difficult to know how it was configured. I appreciate your input! 🙂

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